How does the Heisenberg uncertainty principle apply to photons?

2 Answers
Jul 15, 2017

We literally cannot be certain whatsoever of a photon's position in space from just the facts known about a photon, its interaction with some other body is needed.

Explanation:

More broadly, Heisenberg posits that we cannot be entirely "sure" of a body's position in space. Obviously, as the body's mass increases, there is a better chance at being "certain".

Deltax*mDeltanu >= h/(4pi)

Where Deltax is the position's uncertainty, hence Delta; likewise with Deltanu.

However, a photon is considered to be "massless" with modern theories of physics. I'm not well versed in physics, so I can't elaborate, but if someone can, do so! Let's play with the equation a little:

Deltax*0*Deltanu >= h/(4pi)
Deltax >= h/(4pi*0*c)
Deltax >= h/(0)

As you know, anything divided by 0 is an undefined quantity, hence:

Deltax >= "undefined"

Jul 15, 2017

There is a different version of the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle for photons in three dimensions. (In one dimension, they are both >= ℏ//2.)

As presented in this paper, in their notation, we have from Eq. 5 an uncertainty relation for three dimensions for photons:

DeltarDeltap >= 4ℏ

where:

  • r is the radial position for a given direction in three dimensions (or the "center of energy"). Deltar is then the "spread" in the energy of the light from its center.
  • Deltap = h/(Deltalambda) = (hDeltanu)/(c) is the uncertainty in momentum for photons from the de Broglie relation. That is, lambda = h/p and nu = c/lambda. After realizing that Deltalambda = h/(Deltap), the rest follows from there.
  • lambda is the wavelength in "m" and nu is the frequency in "s"^(-1).
  • c is of course the speed of light in "m/s".
  • ℏ = h//2pi is the reduced Planck's constant.

The version for electrons in three dimensions is

DeltarDeltap >= (3ℏ)/2,

where here, Deltap = mDeltav like usual, since electrons have nonzero rest mass and photons have zero rest mass.

The interesting bit here is that the uncertainty relation for photons only extends "properly" to three dimensions (each dimension multiplied by ℏ/2) as the average photon momentum approaches infinity, i.e. as we use very high frequencies of light.

In other words, in the limit as bb(nu -> oo), photons obey the same uncertainty principle as for electrons (except for the definitions of their momenta).